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    Mi ritiro.

    Cose che ho imparato di GSC:

    1)Borat ha descritto benissimo le basi del gioco di alto livello di GSC. Importantissime le seguenti cose: switchback, pianificazione.
    2)Ciò che Borat non ha detto è che, superate le basi, il GSC moderno è un gioco in cui le prediction hanno un peso enorme. Me ne sono accorto parecchio tardi. Visto che la gente ha imparato a giocare da quelle guide, punire gli switchback è una cosa rischiosa, ma molto importante.
    3)Nel building di GSC, oltre ad avere meno debolezze possibili e nessuna grave, assicuratevi di essere ben parati da Zapdos, Snorlax e Gengar (i primi due perché super OU, il terzo perché sì). Cogliete il consiglio di Borat del buildare i team costruendoli in base agli switchback da fare.
    4)NON BASATE I TEAM SUL LURING. Se un team contiene un luring va bene, ma non deve essere troppo incentrato su questo.
    5)I migliori giocatori di GSC non hanno raggiunto nemmeno l'1% dell'abilità che è umanamente raggiungibile in questo gioco. La pianificazione può raggiungere un livello scacchistico in cui si pensa a tutte le possibili situazioni interconnesse con lo scegliere una singola mossa, ma nessuno è mai arrivato ad un livello simile. Ma attenzione: se non siete ad un livello del genere, dovete imparare a tenere la pianificazione a freno, certe volte. Intendo dire: non affrettatevi. E tenete conto che con l'hax può andare tutto facilmente storto.

    Particolarità di questa classifica:

    1)4 team su 5 sono difensivi. Oppure mettiamola così: 5 team su 5 counterano benissimo Zapdos e Snorlax.
    2)Non ci sono Exeggutor o Vaporeon in questa classifica: dei pokèmon molto fumo e poco arrosto.
    3)Non ci sono boom team qui, nonostante io ne abbia molti: troppo spesso perdono perché sbagli la predict chiave.
    4)Ci sono un sacco di Blissey. Questo pokèmon è molto sottovalutato (fino a poco tempo fa anche da me) ma risolve la altrimenti comunissima debolezza dei team difensivi: electric+ground. Blissey può stallare gli elettrici e minacciare i ground con ice beam. Inoltre para le spalle a Snorlax da Zapdos.
    5)Le percentuali di vittoria sono calcolate secondo il metodo suggerito da GF: (Vittorie+1)/(Partite giocate+2)
    6)Il team al quinto posto in questa classifica vince di più di quello al primo posto della classifica di RSE.
    7)Il quinto e il quarto team sono un po' noiosi; se volete skippateli. Ma i team nel podio hanno tutti degli elementi molto curiosi! ;)

    Ecco la classifica partendo dal quinto.


    Quinto posto: TTar Defensive. Sostanzialmente è uno dei due fix semplici al team più noto di AvengerAngel (Raikou/Snorlax/TTar/Skarmory/Starmie/Blissey). Per counterare il non-più-bannato Curselax, dò Curse a Tyranitar e a Skarmory. Blissey prende Sing come mossa di riserva vs Drumlax, e Raikou se ne va per lasciare il posto a Zapdos, che risolve la debolezza Heracross.

    Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
    - Curse/Screech
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake
    - Rest

    Fantastico. Un ottimo mix tra offensiva e staying power. A volte riesce a tirare giù persino i Suicune, e molti team offensivi gli sono deboli.

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    - Thunder
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Sleep Talk
    - Rest

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast/Belly Drum
    - Rest

    Ok. Si potrebbe mettere Belly Drum al posto di Fire Blast e si risolverebbe il problema di venire stallati da Suicune sleep talker. Ma con Belly Drum, si rischierebbero delle cose con Steelix. Non di certo che Steelix sweeppi, ma che faccia fuori un membro chiave. Però boh. Forse c'era qualche altro motivo, perché in questo momento mi sembra che Belly Drum possa essere meglio.

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    - Curse
    - Drill Peck
    - Whirlwind
    - Rest

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    - Surf
    - Thunder Wave
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover

    Una cosa figa che ho scoperto giocando contro Joker è che questa Starmie unita a Blissey può stallare completamente Vaporeon (perché Blissey diventa più veloce di Vapo). Comunque ho messo Thunder Wave perché: 1)Countero molto bene Machamp e comunque twave aiuta anche in questo 2)Twave è utile a TTar e Snorlax (ancora di più drumlax) 3)(soprattutto!)Twave fa diventare disabile Misdreavus

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    - Ice Beam
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Sing
    - Heal Bell

    Countera Zapdos, cambia le sorti delle partite con Sing al momento giusto, para tizi che nessun'altro vuole toccare ecc

    %­Vittorie: 76%

    Tornei: mai usato.

    Debolezze: Misdreavus con Thunder usato bene e con fortuna; Tyranitar con Crunch,Rock Slide, Fire Blast/Tbolt,EQ/Dpunch; Stall team con Suicune (specie se hanno anche Miltank)


    Log:
    Battle between Asuya and Balzùkk started!

    Tier: GSC OU
    Mode: Singles
    Rule: Unrated
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Freeze Clause
    Rule: Disallow Spects
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: Self-KO Clause

    Asuya sent out Nidoking!
    Balzùkk sent out Tyranitar!

    Start of turn 1
    The foe's Nidoking used Lovely Kiss!
    The attack of the foe's Nidoking missed!

    Tyranitar used Earthquake!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Nidoking lost 61% of its health!

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 2
    Balzùkk called Tyranitar back!
    Balzùkk sent out Zapdos!

    The foe's Nidoking used Lovely Kiss!
    The attack of the foe's Nidoking missed!
    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 3
    Asuya called Nidoking back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 10% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 4
    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Nidoking!

    Zapdos used Thunder!
    It had no effect on the foe's Nidoking!
    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 5
    Asuya called Nidoking back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 11% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 6
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 28% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax used Curse!
    The foe's Snorlax's Attack rose!
    The foe's Snorlax's Defense rose!
    The foe's Snorlax's Speed fell!

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 7
    Balzùkk called Zapdos back!
    Balzùkk sent out Skarmory!

    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Nidoking!

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 8
    Balzùkk called Skarmory back!
    Balzùkk sent out Zapdos!

    The foe's Nidoking used Lovely Kiss!
    Zapdos fell asleep!
    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 9
    Asuya called Nidoking back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Zapdos is fast asleep.
    Zapdos used Sleep Talk!
    Zapdos used Rest!
    But it failed!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 10
    Balzùkk called Zapdos back!
    Balzùkk sent out Skarmory!

    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Nidoking!

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 11
    Balzùkk called Skarmory back!
    Balzùkk sent out Snorlax!

    The foe's Nidoking used Ice Beam!
    Snorlax lost 68 HP! (13% of its health)

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Balzùkk: I can see some saggezza in your moves

    Start of turn 12
    Asuya called Nidoking back!
    Asuya sent out Tyranitar!

    Snorlax used Body Slam!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 11% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 13
    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Snorlax lost 145 HP! (27% of its health)

    Snorlax used Earthquake!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 39% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 14
    Asuya called Tyranitar back!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!

    Balzùkk called Snorlax back!
    Balzùkk sent out Starmie!

    Balzùkk: yo frend

    Start of turn 15
    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Zapdos!

    Starmie used Thunder Wave!
    The foe's Zapdos is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    Start of turn 16
    Balzùkk called Starmie back!
    Balzùkk sent out Snorlax!

    Asuya called Zapdos back!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 17
    Balzùkk called Snorlax back!
    Balzùkk sent out Starmie!

    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's not very effective...
    Starmie lost 77 HP! (23% of its health)

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 18
    Starmie used Thunder Wave!
    The foe's Machamp is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's not very effective...
    Starmie lost 77 HP! (23% of its health)

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Balzùkk: qui c'è stata poca saggezza

    Start of turn 19
    Starmie used Recover!
    Starmie regained health!

    The foe's Machamp used Rock Slide!
    Starmie lost 81 HP! (25% of its health)

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 20
    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Starmie used Surf!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 21% of its health!

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 21
    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Nidoking!

    Starmie used Surf!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Nidoking lost 71% of its health!
    Balzùkk: qui troppa scontatezza

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 22
    Asuya called Nidoking back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Starmie used Surf!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 21% of its health!

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 23
    Balzùkk called Starmie back!
    Balzùkk sent out Tyranitar!

    The foe's Snorlax used Rest!
    The foe's Snorlax went to sleep and became healthy!

    Start of turn 24
    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!

    Tyranitar used Earthquake!
    A critical hit!
    The foe's Machamp lost 60% of its health!

    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 25
    Balzùkk called Tyranitar back!
    Balzùkk sent out Starmie!

    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Tyranitar!

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 26
    Asuya called Tyranitar back!
    Asuya sent out Zapdos!

    Starmie used Surf!
    The foe's Zapdos lost 34% of its health!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 27
    Balzùkk called Starmie back!
    Balzùkk sent out Zapdos!

    The foe's Zapdos used Rest!
    The foe's Zapdos went to sleep and became healthy!

    Start of turn 28
    Asuya called Zapdos back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Balzùkk called Zapdos back!
    Balzùkk sent out Snorlax!

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 29
    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Cloyster!

    Snorlax used Body Slam!
    The foe's Cloyster lost 23% of its health!
    The foe's Cloyster is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 30
    Balzùkk called Snorlax back!
    Balzùkk sent out Starmie!

    Asuya called Cloyster back!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!

    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 31
    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Starmie used Surf!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 19% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 32
    Balzùkk called Starmie back!
    Balzùkk sent out Tyranitar!

    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!

    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 33
    Balzùkk called Tyranitar back!
    Balzùkk sent out Zapdos!

    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Zapdos!

    Start of turn 34
    Balzùkk called Zapdos back!
    Balzùkk sent out Tyranitar!

    The foe's Zapdos is fast asleep.
    The foe's Zapdos used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Zapdos used Rest!
    But it failed!

    Start of turn 35
    The foe's Zapdos is fast asleep.
    The foe's Zapdos used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Zapdos used Rest!
    But it failed!

    Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Zapdos lost 61% of its health!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 36
    The foe's Zapdos woke up!
    The foe's Zapdos used Rest!
    The foe's Zapdos went to sleep and became healthy!

    Tyranitar used Earthquake!
    It had no effect on the foe's Zapdos!

    Start of turn 37
    Asuya called Zapdos back!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!

    Tyranitar used Curse!
    Tyranitar's Attack rose!
    Tyranitar's Defense rose!
    Tyranitar's Speed fell!

    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 38
    Balzùkk called Tyranitar back!
    Balzùkk sent out Starmie!

    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's not very effective...
    Starmie lost 78 HP! (24% of its health)

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 39
    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Starmie used Surf!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 21% of its health!

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 40
    Starmie used Surf!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 19% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.
    The foe's Snorlax used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Snorlax used Curse!
    The foe's Snorlax's Attack rose!
    The foe's Snorlax's Defense rose!
    The foe's Snorlax's Speed fell!

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 41
    Balzùkk called Starmie back!
    Balzùkk sent out Tyranitar!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.
    The foe's Snorlax used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Snorlax used Return!
    It's not very effective...
    Tyranitar lost 91 HP! (22% of its health)

    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 42
    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!

    Tyranitar used Curse!
    Tyranitar's Attack rose!
    Tyranitar's Defense rose!
    Tyranitar's Speed fell!

    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 43
    Balzùkk called Tyranitar back!
    Balzùkk sent out Starmie!

    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's not very effective...
    Starmie lost 75 HP! (23% of its health)

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 44
    Balzùkk called Starmie back!
    Balzùkk sent out Tyranitar!

    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Zapdos!

    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 45
    The foe's Zapdos is fast asleep.
    The foe's Zapdos used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Zapdos used Thunderbolt!
    Tyranitar lost 126 HP! (31% of its health)

    Tyranitar used Curse!
    Tyranitar's Attack rose!
    Tyranitar's Defense rose!
    Tyranitar's Speed fell!

    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 46
    The foe's Zapdos is fast asleep.
    The foe's Zapdos used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Zapdos used Rest!
    But it failed!

    Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Zapdos lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Zapdos fainted!
    Asuya sent out Cloyster!
    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 47
    Tyranitar used Earthquake!
    The foe's Cloyster lost 29% of its health!

    The foe's Cloyster used Surf!
    Balzùkk: missclick
    It's super effective!
    A critical hit!
    Tyranitar lost 311 HP! (77% of its health)
    Tyranitar fainted!
    Balzùkk: lol
    Balzùkk: ahia
    Balzùkk sent out Starmie!
    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 48
    Starmie used Surf!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Cloyster lost 27% of its health!

    The foe's Cloyster used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Balzùkk's team!

    Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 49
    Starmie used Surf!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Cloyster lost 28% of its health!

    The foe's Cloyster used Explosion!
    Starmie lost 290 HP! (89% of its health)
    Starmie fainted!
    The foe's Cloyster fainted!
    Balzùkk sent out Skarmory!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 50
    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Tyranitar!

    Skarmory used Drill Peck!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 9% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 51
    Balzùkk called Skarmory back!
    Balzùkk sent out Snorlax!
    Snorlax is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Fire Blast!
    The attack of the foe's Tyranitar missed!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 52
    Snorlax used Earthquake!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 40% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Roar!
    Zapdos was dragged out!

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 53
    Balzùkk called Zapdos back!
    Balzùkk sent out Skarmory!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Skarmory lost 87 HP! (26% of its health)

    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 54
    Balzùkk called Skarmory back!
    Balzùkk sent out Snorlax!
    Snorlax is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Snorlax avoided the attack!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 55
    Asuya called Tyranitar back!
    Asuya sent out Nidoking!

    Snorlax used Earthquake!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Nidoking lost 15% of its health!
    The foe's Nidoking fainted!
    Asuya sent out Machamp!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 56
    Balzùkk called Snorlax back!
    Balzùkk sent out Skarmory!

    Asuya called Machamp back!
    Asuya sent out Tyranitar!

    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 57
    Balzùkk called Skarmory back!
    Balzùkk sent out Snorlax!
    Snorlax is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Snorlax lost 151 HP! (28% of its health)

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 58
    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Snorlax lost 141 HP! (26% of its health)

    Snorlax flinched and couldn't move!

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 59
    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Snorlax lost 153 HP! (29% of its health)

    Snorlax flinched and couldn't move!

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Balzùkk: terribol

    Start of turn 60
    The foe's Tyranitar used Pursuit!
    Snorlax lost 41 HP! (7% of its health)

    Snorlax used Rest!
    Snorlax went to sleep and became healthy!

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Asuya: fail
    Balzùkk: lol ahah
    Balzùkk: nonsense perché morivo di spikes
    Asuya: non volevo rischiare
    Asuya: il miss di slide
    Asuya: rofl
    Balzùkk: non hai eq?

    Start of turn 61
    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Snorlax lost 142 HP! (27% of its health)

    Snorlax is fast asleep.

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Balzùkk: o altro
    Balzùkk: ah
    Asuya: n
    Balzùkk: giÃ

    Start of turn 62
    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    A critical hit!
    Snorlax lost 283 HP! (54% of its health)

    Snorlax is fast asleep.

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Asuya: ah ez

    Start of turn 63
    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    A critical hit!
    Snorlax lost 162 HP! (30% of its health)
    Snorlax fainted!
    Balzùkk: ez
    Asuya: 2ez
    Balzùkk sent out Blissey!
    Blissey is hurt by spikes!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 64
    The foe's Tyranitar used Rock Slide!
    Blissey lost 259 HP! (36% of its health)

    Blissey used Sing!
    The foe's Tyranitar fell asleep!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Balzùkk: ez

    Start of turn 65
    The foe's Tyranitar is fast asleep.

    Blissey used Heal Bell!
    A bell chimed!

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 66
    Balzùkk called Blissey back!
    Balzùkk sent out Zapdos!

    The foe's Tyranitar is fast asleep.

    Start of turn 67
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 42% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar is fast asleep.

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 68
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 38% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar is fast asleep.

    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Asuya: CAMON

    Start of turn 69
    Asuya called Tyranitar back!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 28% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 70
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The attack of Zapdos missed!

    The foe's Snorlax woke up!
    The foe's Snorlax used Rest!
    The foe's Snorlax went to sleep and became healthy!

    Start of turn 71
    Asuya called Snorlax back!
    Asuya sent out Tyranitar!
    Balzùkk: k

    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 31% of its health!
    The foe's Tyranitar fainted!
    Asuya sent out Snorlax!

    Start of turn 72
    Balzùkk called Zapdos back!
    Balzùkk sent out Skarmory!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.
    The foe's Snorlax used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Snorlax used Rest!
    But it failed!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Balzùkk: ora sweep di skarm

    Start of turn 73
    Skarmory used Curse!
    Skarmory's Attack rose!
    Skarmory's Defense rose!
    Skarmory's Speed fell!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.
    The foe's Snorlax used Sleep Talk!
    The foe's Snorlax used Rest!
    But it failed!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 74
    The foe's Snorlax woke up!
    The foe's Snorlax used Curse!
    The foe's Snorlax's Attack rose!
    The foe's Snorlax's Defense rose!
    The foe's Snorlax's Speed fell!

    Skarmory used Curse!
    Skarmory's Attack rose!
    Skarmory's Defense rose!
    Skarmory's Speed fell!

    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 75
    Skarmory used Curse!
    Skarmory's Attack rose!
    Skarmory's Defense rose!
    Skarmory's Speed fell!

    The foe's Snorlax used Return!
    It's not very effective...
    Skarmory lost 29 HP! (8% of its health)

    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 76
    The foe's Snorlax used Curse!
    The foe's Snorlax's Attack rose!
    The foe's Snorlax's Defense rose!
    Asuya: gg
    The foe's Snorlax's Speed fell!

    Skarmory used Curse!
    Skarmory's Attack rose!
    Skarmory's Defense rose!


    Quarto posto: Team PREFETTO. Questo team ha una lunga storia ed è alla sua terza versione. L'idea era di costruire un team "perfetto", cioè che avesse "una risposta e mezzo" per ogni threat. L'esperimento è riuscito solo in parte, nel senso che apparentemente ha davvero una risposta e mezza per ogni threat o quasi, ma ha alcune debolezze un po' più concettuali...Questo è un mio team vecchio, e da allora ho acquisito nuovi concetti nel building, ma nonostante ciò la sua percentuale di vittorie è interessante. Per aggiungere qualche curiosità, la prima versione di questo team risale al periodo di GSC in cui erano ancora bannati Curselax e gli hplegend ed erano permessi gli sleeptrapper. I membri allora erano Alakazam (Encore-Psychic-Light Screen-Recover), Machamp sleep talker, Skarmory, Blissey, Starmie, Drumlax. In quel metagame funzionava benissimo, con il solo difetto della fragilità di kazam e di qualche insicurezza lieve contro Heracross. Poi una successiva versione se non ricordo male divenne Snorlax Rhydon Vaporeon (senza growth! se non erro aveva surf ice beam haze rest; haze per drumlax e gli altri vaporeon) Skarmory Starmie Blissey. Sembra diversissimo, ma se provate a fixarlo e rifixarlo, vedrete che ne uscirà fuori l'attuale versione:

    Raikou @ Leftovers
    - Thunder
    - Crunch
    - Sleep Talk
    - Rest

    Crunch perché così fa da secondo counter degli altri Raikou.

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    - Belly Drum
    - Earthquake
    - Rest
    - Return

    Il difetto del team è qui. Drumlax non è abbastanza ben supportato. Si potrebbe provare un curselax con fire blast, ma poi sorgerebbe una debolezza a Tyranitar e bisognerebbe dare Seismic Toss a Miltank. Si potrebbe usare curselax con thunder, che è ok, anche se poi bisogna starsi zitti quando si vede Steelix. Si può usare mixlax. Forse il set migliore è Mossa normal+Lovely Kiss+Fire Blast/Flame+Rest, che permette di cambiare le sorti della battle, facendo uscire questo team dalla sua solita passività. I set che non fanno nulla a Skarmory, invece, sono da escludere completamente.
    Tutte le soluzioni hanno difetti. Va ricordato, comunque, che Double-Edge può essere una mossa a doppio taglio (non per niente) quando ci si ritrova contro Nidoking. E body slam ha pochi pp (diciamo che il rapporto potenza/pp è brutto). Quindi Return è una opzione importante in questo caso.

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    - Psychic
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Surf

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    - Drill Peck
    - Rest
    - Sand Attack
    - Whirlwind

    Sand-Attack perché così countera meglio Machamp e perché fa da secondo (mezzo) counter di entrambi i tipi di Curselax (sìsì, come no)

    Miltank (F) @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Growl
    - Heal Bell
    - Milk Drink

    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    - Spikes
    - Reflect/Toxic
    - Surf
    - Explosion

    Il Reflect lo misi perché consente di mandare Cloy su Curselax e di spikare indisturbato. Se lo fai senza mettere poi il Reflect, rischia di sweepparti.

    %­Vittorie: 78%

    Tornei: 2 W (Texas, Bedschibaer) 1 L (Mr.E)

    Debolezze: Ground+electric (questo team è molto sensibile agli switchback ground+electric), specialmente Nidoking+Electric. Tra l'altro sia gli elettrici che Nidoking tendono ad annullare l'offensiva di questo team, costringendo Snorlax a subire, impedendogli di setupparsi. Dopo aver notato questa debolezza, mi sono dato la regola di avere un counter di ground+electric (piloswine, blissey con beam, nidoking) in ogni team con Drumlax. Se vogliamo essere pignoli è leggermente debole ad Heracross e a Curselax con Fire Blast, ma è veramente una pignoleria. Un po' anche a Tyranitar.


    Log: https://netbattle.forumfree.it/?t=69323600

    Terzo posto: Zapdos3. Un team basato su Zapdos 3 attacchi, che sostanzialmente è counterato solo da Raikou e Snorlax+ground. Per Snorlax+ground ci metto le spikes, tanto i team offensivi che contengono questa coppia di solito non spinnano. Per Raikou rip. Questo team è molto strambo e non gli avrei dato un soldo.

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    - Drill Peck
    - Hidden Power [Water]
    - Rest
    - Thunder

    Ecco l'eroe. Ma non è che vinca per lui. Questo team vince solitamente senza grandi sweep, ma difendendosi. Non sono sicuro che sia lo starter migliore.

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    - Heal Bell
    - Ice Beam
    - Sing
    - Soft-Boiled

    Blissey con Sing cambia davvero le partite, anche perché tiene lontano lo sleep talker più comune (Zapdos).

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Curse/Belly Drum
    - Earthquake
    - Rest

    Con Belly Drum l'offensiva è migliore, ma come standard uso Curse perché non ho un normal resistor decente.

    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    - Rapid Spin
    - Ice Beam
    - Spikes
    - Surf

    Ice Beam limita la debolezza Exeggutor, e congela Starmie: questa cosa mi ha consentito più di una volta di vincere delle partite, grazie al tizio che viene dopo:

    Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
    - Cross Chop
    - Earthquake
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    Counter di Gengar, Snorlax and stuff.

    Aerodactyl (M) @ Leftovers
    - Curse
    - Hidden Power [Rock]
    - Rest
    - Whirlwind

    Vabbè, non è che Snorlax lo counteri solo Machamp lol. Lui in pratica è qui perché countera tutti i curselax, tranne quello con Thunder e con Lovely Kiss, con i quali aiuterà Machamp. Oltre a ciò ha ww per gli Umbreon trapper. E già che ci siamo è l'unico normal resistor del team.

    %­Vittorie: 81%

    Tornei: 1 W (Deidara)

    Debolezze: Exeggutor, Snorlax con Thunder, Explosion


    Log:
    Battle between Marcoasd and Bekins started!

    Tier: GSC OU
    Mode: Singles
    Rule: Unrated
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Freeze Clause
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: Self-KO Clause

    Marcoasd sent out Nidoking!
    Bekins sent out Zapdos!

    Start of turn 1
    Marcoasd called Nidoking back!
    Candies is watching the battle.
    Marcoasd sent out Snorlax!

    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 11% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 2
    Bekins called Zapdos back!
    Bekins sent out Machamp!

    The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
    Machamp lost 134 HP! (34% of its health)
    Machamp is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 3
    Marcoasd called Snorlax back!
    Marcoasd sent out Zapdos!

    Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Zapdos lost 20% of its health!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 4
    Bekins called Machamp back!
    Bekins sent out Snorlax!

    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    The attack of the foe's Zapdos missed!
    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 5
    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    Snorlax lost 160 HP! (30% of its health)

    Snorlax used Curse!
    Snorlax's Attack rose!
    Snorlax's Defense rose!
    Snorlax's Speed fell!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: bruttissimo gesto

    Start of turn 6
    Marcoasd called Zapdos back!
    Marcoasd sent out Exeggutor!

    Snorlax used Body Slam!
    The foe's Exeggutor lost 47% of its health!
    The foe's Exeggutor is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Bekins: anche questo
    Bekins: abbastanza brutto

    Start of turn 7
    Snorlax used Curse!
    Snorlax's Attack rose!
    Snorlax's Defense rose!
    Snorlax's Speed fell!

    The foe's Exeggutor used Explosion!
    Snorlax lost 240 HP! (45% of its health)
    The foe's Exeggutor fainted!
    Bekins: non è da menoi
    Bekins: nemmeno questo
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 8
    Bekins called Snorlax back!
    Bekins sent out Zapdos!

    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's not very effective...
    Zapdos lost 80 HP! (21% of its health)

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    CP3 is watching the battle.

    Start of turn 9
    Marcoasd called Machamp back!
    Marcoasd sent out Snorlax!

    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 11% of its health!

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 10
    Bekins called Zapdos back!
    Bekins sent out Cloyster!

    The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
    Cloyster lost 76 HP! (25% of its health)

    Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 11
    Marcoasd called Snorlax back!
    Marcoasd sent out Zapdos!

    Cloyster used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Marcoasd's team!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 12
    Bekins called Cloyster back!
    Bekins sent out Blissey!

    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    Blissey lost 142 HP! (19% of its health)
    Blissey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 13
    The foe's Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective!
    Blissey lost 269 HP! (37% of its health)

    Blissey used Heal Bell!
    A bell chimed!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Bekins: azz

    Start of turn 14
    Marcoasd called Zapdos back!
    Marcoasd sent out Nidoking!
    The foe's Nidoking is hurt by spikes!

    Blissey used Soft-Boiled!
    Blissey regained health!

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 15
    Bekins called Blissey back!
    Bekins sent out Machamp!

    The foe's Nidoking used Ice Beam!
    Machamp lost 79 HP! (20% of its health)

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 16
    The foe's Nidoking used Lovely Kiss!
    Machamp fell asleep!

    Machamp is fast asleep.

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 17
    The foe's Nidoking used Earthquake!
    Machamp lost 121 HP! (31% of its health)

    Machamp woke up!
    Machamp used Sleep Talk!
    But it failed!
    Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Marcoasd: kek

    Start of turn 18
    The foe's Nidoking used Lovely Kiss!
    Machamp fell asleep!

    Machamp is fast asleep.

    Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 19
    Bekins called Machamp back!
    Bekins sent out Cloyster!

    The foe's Nidoking used Ice Beam!
    It's not very effective...
    Cloyster lost 26 HP! (8% of its health)

    Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 20
    Marcoasd called Nidoking back!
    Marcoasd sent out Zapdos!

    Cloyster used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective!
    A critical hit!
    Marcoasd: lol
    The foe's Zapdos lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Zapdos fainted!
    Bekins: lol
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    The foe's Machamp is hurt by spikes!
    Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Bekins: eventi proprio brutti

    Start of turn 21
    Cloyster used Ice Beam!
    The foe's Machamp lost 27% of its health!

    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's super effective!
    Cloyster lost 200 HP! (66% of its health)

    Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 22
    Marcoasd called Machamp back!
    Marcoasd sent out Tyranitar!
    The foe's Tyranitar is hurt by spikes!

    Cloyster used Ice Beam!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 26% of its health!

    Cloyster restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 23
    Cloyster used Surf!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 48% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Ancient Power!
    It's super effective!
    Cloyster lost 109 HP! (35% of its health)
    Cloyster fainted!
    Bekins: robe da terzo mondo
    Bekins sent out Zapdos!
    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 24
    Marcoasd called Tyranitar back!
    Marcoasd sent out Nidoking!
    The foe's Nidoking is hurt by spikes!

    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Nidoking lost 42% of its health!

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: gg
    Bekins: che pessimismo
    Marcoasd: bèh sì
    Marcoasd: giocate brutte
    Bekins: per ora ci sei ancora

    Start of turn 25
    Bekins called Zapdos back!
    Bekins sent out Blissey!

    The foe's Nidoking used Ice Beam!
    Blissey lost 58 HP! (8% of its health)

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 26
    Marcoasd called Nidoking back!
    Marcoasd sent out Tyranitar!
    The foe's Tyranitar is hurt by spikes!

    Blissey used Ice Beam!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 12% of its health!
    The foe's Tyranitar fainted!
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    The foe's Machamp is hurt by spikes!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 27
    Bekins called Blissey back!
    Bekins sent out Zapdos!

    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    It's not very effective...
    Zapdos lost 82 HP! (22% of its health)

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 28
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Machamp lost 47% of its health!

    The foe's Machamp used Rock Slide!
    It's super effective!
    Zapdos lost 169 HP! (46% of its health)

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 29
    Marcoasd called Machamp back!
    Marcoasd sent out Snorlax!
    The foe's Snorlax is hurt by spikes!

    Zapdos used Drill Peck!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 22% of its health!

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 30
    Bekins called Zapdos back!
    Bekins sent out Aerodactyl!

    The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
    It's not very effective...
    Aerodactyl lost 78 HP! (21% of its health)

    Aerodactyl restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Bekins: maestoso

    Start of turn 31
    Aerodactyl used Curse!
    Aerodactyl's Attack rose!
    Aerodactyl's Defense rose!
    Aerodactyl's Speed fell!

    The foe's Snorlax used Fire Blast!
    It's not very effective...
    Aerodactyl lost 41 HP! (11% of its health)

    Aerodactyl restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 32
    Marcoasd called Snorlax back!
    Marcoasd sent out Nidoking!
    The foe's Nidoking is hurt by spikes!

    Aerodactyl used Hidden Power!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Nidoking lost 19% of its health!

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Aerodactyl restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 33
    Bekins called Aerodactyl back!
    Bekins sent out Blissey!

    The foe's Nidoking used Thunder!
    Blissey lost 65 HP! (9% of its health)

    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 34
    Marcoasd called Nidoking back!
    Marcoasd sent out Snorlax!
    The foe's Snorlax is hurt by spikes!

    Blissey used Ice Beam!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 11% of its health!

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 35
    Blissey used Sing!
    The foe's Snorlax fell asleep!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 36
    Bekins called Blissey back!
    Bekins sent out Aerodactyl!

    Marcoasd called Snorlax back!
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    The foe's Machamp is hurt by spikes!

    Aerodactyl restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 37
    The foe's Machamp used Rock Slide!
    It's super effective!
    Aerodactyl lost 175 HP! (49% of its health)

    Aerodactyl used Whirlwind!
    The foe's Snorlax is hurt by spikes!
    The foe's Snorlax was dragged out!

    Aerodactyl restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 38
    Bekins called Aerodactyl back!
    Bekins sent out Snorlax!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 39
    Snorlax used Body Slam!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 26% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 40
    Snorlax used Body Slam!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 27% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 41
    Snorlax used Curse!
    Snorlax's Attack rose!
    Snorlax's Defense rose!
    Snorlax's Speed fell!

    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 42
    The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

    Snorlax used Body Slam!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 36% of its health!
    The foe's Snorlax fainted!
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    The foe's Machamp is hurt by spikes!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 43
    The foe's Machamp used Cross Chop!
    The attack of the foe's Machamp missed!

    Snorlax used Body Slam!
    The foe's Machamp lost 17% of its health!
    The foe's Machamp fainted!
    Marcoasd sent out Nidoking!
    Marcoasd: gg
    The foe's Nidoking is hurt by spikes!
    The foe's Nidoking restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 44
    The foe's Nidoking used Ice Beam!
    Snorlax lost 65 HP! (12% of its health)


    Secondo posto: Anti-Zapdos Espeon. Se vi siete annoiati finora, ecco un bel team aggressivo. In pratica questo team nasce secondo il principio che è importante counterare bene Zapdos. Quindi ogni membro del team COME MINIMO SE LA GIOCA con Zapdos e nessuno viene brutalizzato dall'uccellaccio. Nel corso del building ho inserito un Espeon che mi serviva da switch di riserva contro Machamp e Cloyster, i quali in alcuni team potevano darmi fastidio. Ho quindi riaggiustato il team per creare dei receiver. A volte il miglior modo per costruire un team creativi è NON partire con il basare il team su quella roba.

    Raikou @ Leftovers
    - Thunder
    - Reflect
    - Hidden Power [Water]
    - Rest

    MERAVIGLIOSO. Si piazza il Reflect, si fa il suo sonnellino ben protetto, ogni tanto predicta uno Steelix. Bellissimo.

    Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
    - Ancient Power
    - Roar
    - Fire Blast
    - Surf

    In realtà mi serviva solo il counter di Curselax con Fire Blast, con una mossa per non far entrare Marowak e già che ci siamo colpire gli altri TTar. Il resto è stato messo per dare un po' di fastidio e farne un receiver decente da far entrare sulle mosse normal (comprese Explosion). Ovviamente la mossa rock è d'obbligo perché tutti devono poter battere Zapdos.

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    - Lovely Kiss
    - Return
    - Fire Blast
    - Self-Destruct

    Con le spalle ben coperte da Raikou per il countering di Zapdos, questo Snorlax può concedersi qualche mossa carina. Intanto batte la coppia Raikou+Skarmory, che è piuttosto importante. Poi Lovely Kiss è utile sia offensivamente che difensivamente contro i Tyranitar, nel senso che (offensivamente) li leva di mezzo così che Espeon vada tranquillo e (difensivamente) sono debole a TTar quindi spero di cavarmela così. Naturalmente poi non c'è nessun motivo di mettersi a dormire (anzi sarebbe un danno qui dentro), quindi selfdestruct e via. Utile anche contro i last pokèmon.

    Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
    - Growth
    - Psychic
    - Hidden Power [Water]
    - Baton Pass/Moonlight/Substitute

    Che cariino. In realtà è il mio main sweeper e anche se avevo dato per scontato che dovesse fare il bpasser, di fatto l'ultima mossa non mi è più o meno mai stata granché utile. Di solito sweeppa da solo. Quindi tantovale mettere Moonlight, probabilmente, o un Substitute per ownare completamente gli Exeggutor. Lui era stato inserito perché un Cloyster potrebbe portarsi a casa un kill importante ed Espeon è lì o per affrontare Cloyster o molto più spesso per sostituire il tizio killato da Cloyster. Per esempio sostituisce uno Zapdos morto nel fermare Machamp, o un Raikou morto nel fermare Gengar, ecc.

    Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
    - Spikes
    - Curse
    - Giga Drain
    - Explosion

    Insieme a TTar countera i due tipi di Curselax. Giga Drain è ottimo contro Cloyster. È il meno forte vs Zapdos, ma gli esplode contro (e poi ho raikou, ricordiamoci, lol)

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    - Thunder
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Sleep Talk
    - Rest

    Countera Heracross, è il più solido contro Vaporeon, countera Machamp, se la gioca al 50% contro gli altri Zapdos ecc.

    %­Vittorie: 83%

    Tornei: Mai usato.

    Debolezze: Tyranitar (Rock Slide/AP, Fire Blast, Earthquake); leggermente Drumlax; Piloswine, un po' Marowak


    Log:
    Battle between Marcoasd and bellezzo started!

    Tier: GSC OU
    Mode: Singles
    Rule: Unrated
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Freeze Clause
    Rule: Disallow Spects
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: Self-KO Clause

    Marcoasd sent out Zapdos!
    bellezzo sent out Raikou!

    Start of turn 1
    Raikou used Reflect!
    Reflect raised bellezzo's team defense!

    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    It's not very effective...
    Raikou lost 79 HP! (21% of its health)

    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 2
    Marcoasd called Zapdos back!
    Marcoasd sent out Exeggutor!

    Raikou used Thunder!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Exeggutor lost 26% of its health!

    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 3
    bellezzo called Raikou back!
    bellezzo sent out Zapdos!

    Marcoasd called Exeggutor back!
    Marcoasd sent out Snorlax!

    Start of turn 4
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 27% of its health!
    The foe's Snorlax is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
    Zapdos lost 65 HP! (16% of its health)

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 5
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Snorlax lost 29% of its health!

    The foe's Snorlax is paralyzed! It can't move!

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Bellezzo's reflect wore off!

    Start of turn 6
    bellezzo called Zapdos back!
    bellezzo sent out Tyranitar!
    Marcoasd: lol

    The foe's Snorlax used Self-Destruct!
    It's not very effective...
    Tyranitar lost 243 HP! (60% of its health)
    The foe's Snorlax fainted!
    Marcoasd sent out Tyranitar!
    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: un po' troppo ovvia

    Start of turn 7
    bellezzo called Tyranitar back!
    bellezzo sent out Forretress!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Dynamic Punch!
    Forretress lost 81 HP! (22% of its health)
    Forretress became confused!

    Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 8
    bellezzo called Forretress back!
    bellezzo sent out Snorlax!

    The foe's Tyranitar used Ancient Power!
    Snorlax lost 107 HP! (20% of its health)

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 9
    The foe's Tyranitar used Dynamic Punch!
    The attack of the foe's Tyranitar missed!

    Snorlax used Lovely Kiss!
    The foe's Tyranitar fell asleep!

    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 10
    Marcoasd called Tyranitar back!
    Marcoasd sent out Exeggutor!

    bellezzo called Snorlax back!
    bellezzo sent out Forretress!

    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 11
    bellezzo called Forretress back!
    bellezzo sent out Zapdos!

    The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
    The attack of the foe's Exeggutor missed!
    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 12
    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Exeggutor lost 44% of its health!

    The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
    Zapdos fell asleep!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 13
    bellezzo called Zapdos back!
    bellezzo sent out Forretress!

    The foe's Exeggutor used Psychic!
    It's not very effective...
    Forretress lost 87 HP! (24% of its health)

    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 14
    Marcoasd called Exeggutor back!
    Marcoasd sent out Forretress!

    Forretress used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Marcoasd's team!

    Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 15
    bellezzo called Forretress back!
    bellezzo sent out Tyranitar!
    bellezzo: ballbreaker

    The foe's Forretress used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered all around the feet of bellezzo's team!

    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 16
    Marcoasd called Forretress back!
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    The foe's Machamp is hurt by spikes!

    Tyranitar used Fire Blast!
    The foe's Machamp lost 27% of its health!

    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: altro ballbreaker
    Marcoasd: sembra bastardo sto team che hai
    Marcoasd: vuoi usarlo?
    bellezzo: se vinco questa battle
    bellezzo: lo uso contro cased
    bellezzo: se no sarò indeciso
    bellezzo: fra due

    Start of turn 17
    bellezzo called Tyranitar back!
    bellezzo sent out Espeon!
    Espeon is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Machamp used Rock Slide!
    Espeon lost 97 HP! (30% of its health)

    Espeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 18
    Marcoasd called Machamp back!
    Marcoasd sent out Exeggutor!
    The foe's Exeggutor is hurt by spikes!

    Espeon used Growth!
    Espeon's Sp. Att. rose!

    Espeon restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 19
    Espeon used Baton Pass!
    bellezzo called Espeon back!
    bellezzo sent out Tyranitar!
    Tyranitar is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Exeggutor used Giga Drain!
    It's super effective!
    Tyranitar lost 182 HP! (45% of its health)
    Tyranitar had its energy drained!

    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: DIIIIIIO

    Start of turn 20
    Marcoasd called Exeggutor back!
    Marcoasd sent out Zapdos!

    Tyranitar used Fire Blast!
    The foe's Zapdos lost 40% of its health!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: uccide hp ice sì?
    bellezzo: sì
    Marcoasd: tanto madi trippalax

    Start of turn 21
    bellezzo called Tyranitar back!
    bellezzo sent out Raikou!
    Raikou is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    It's not very effective...
    Raikou lost 88 HP! (23% of its health)

    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: che odio quel cane

    Start of turn 22
    Raikou used Thunder!
    The attack of Raikou missed!

    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    It's not very effective...
    Raikou lost 87 HP! (23% of its health)
    Raikou is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 23
    Marcoasd called Zapdos back!
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    The foe's Machamp is hurt by spikes!

    Raikou is paralyzed! It can't move!

    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: maremma buhaiola

    Start of turn 24
    bellezzo called Raikou back!
    bellezzo sent out Tyranitar!
    Tyranitar is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Machamp used Earthquake!
    It's super effective!
    Tyranitar lost 3 HP! (0% of its health)
    Tyranitar fainted!
    bellezzo sent out Zapdos!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 25
    Zapdos is fast asleep.
    Zapdos used Sleep Talk!
    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    The foe's Machamp lost 19% of its health!

    The foe's Machamp used Rock Slide!
    It's super effective!
    Zapdos lost 147 HP! (38% of its health)

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: la tua religione non permette il counter di zapdos nel team?
    Marcoasd: HAHAHAHAHA
    Marcoasd: lax doveva prenderlo col botto
    bellezzo: eh, non è isi
    Marcoasd: questa finisce nella descizione comunque

    Start of turn 26
    Zapdos woke up!
    Zapdos used Sleep Talk!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Machamp used Rock Slide!
    Zapdos avoided the attack!

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Machamp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: fair
    Marcoasd: lol
    Marcoasd: che poi sono abbastanza tocco

    Start of turn 27
    Marcoasd called Machamp back!
    Marcoasd sent out Exeggutor!
    The foe's Exeggutor is hurt by spikes!

    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Exeggutor lost 44% of its health!

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: pr0
    bellezzo: pr0

    Start of turn 28
    Marcoasd called Exeggutor back!
    Marcoasd sent out Forretress!
    The foe's Forretress is hurt by spikes!

    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Forretress lost 11% of its health!

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: somatoline cosmetic per pancia e fianchi
    bellezzo: uhm
    Marcoasd: ci ha rotto il cazzoooo

    Start of turn 29
    bellezzo called Zapdos back!
    bellezzo sent out Forretress!
    Forretress is hurt by spikes!

    The foe's Forretress used Rapid Spin!
    It's not very effective...
    Forretress lost 6 HP! (1% of its health)
    The foe's Forretress blew away Spikes!

    Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: e io ti spaiko!
    Marcoasd: ti esco HP fire

    Start of turn 30
    Marcoasd called Forretress back!
    Marcoasd sent out Machamp!
    Marcoasd: lol

    Forretress used Explosion!
    The foe's Machamp lost 64% of its health!
    The foe's Machamp fainted!
    Forretress fainted!
    Marcoasd: ci stava
    bellezzo: uhm
    Marcoasd: il bello è che lo immagginavo pure
    bellezzo sent out Snorlax!
    Snorlax is hurt by spikes!
    Marcoasd sent out Zapdos!
    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 31
    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    Snorlax lost 163 HP! (31% of its health)

    Snorlax used Return!
    The foe's Zapdos lost 34% of its health!

    The foe's Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 32
    The foe's Zapdos used Thunder!
    Snorlax lost 151 HP! (28% of its health)

    Snorlax used Return!
    A critical hit!
    The foe's Zapdos lost 54% of its health!
    The foe's Zapdos fainted!
    bellezzo: magical
    Marcoasd sent out Tyranitar!
    Snorlax restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: se mi sveglio
    bellezzo: ok
    bellezzo: vediamo
    Marcoasd: in face
    Marcoasd: lol

    Start of turn 33
    The foe's Tyranitar is fast asleep.

    Snorlax used Self-Destruct!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 55% of its health!
    Snorlax fainted!
    bellezzo sent out Zapdos!
    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 34
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The attack of Zapdos missed!

    The foe's Tyranitar is fast asleep.

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 35
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 42% of its health!

    The foe's Tyranitar is fast asleep.

    Zapdos restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 36
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Tyranitar lost 20% of its health!
    The foe's Tyranitar fainted!
    Marcoasd sent out Forretress!
    The foe's Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 37
    bellezzo called Zapdos back!
    bellezzo sent out Raikou!
    Raikou is hurt by spikes!

    Marcoasd called Forretress back!
    Marcoasd sent out Exeggutor!

    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: trololo
    bellezzo: mossa intrigante

    Start of turn 38
    The foe's Exeggutor used Giga Drain!
    Raikou lost 89 HP! (24% of its health)
    Raikou had its energy drained!

    Raikou used Thunder!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Exeggutor lost 23% of its health!

    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: fp no pd
    Marcoasd: anche miss
    Marcoasd: e spunta il nostro eroe zapdos?
    bellezzo: eh è complessa
    bellezzo: hai davvero fatto una bella mossa
    Marcoasd: da rbyer in endgame disperato
    Marcoasd: lol
    bellezzo: quanti hp ha in tutto gutoir?
    bellezzo: al 100%
    Marcoasd: 393
    Marcoasd: non ha hp fire
    Marcoasd: timeout best wincon

    Start of turn 39
    The foe's Exeggutor used Giga Drain!
    Raikou lost 77 HP! (20% of its health)
    Raikou had its energy drained!

    Raikou used Thunder!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Exeggutor lost 25% of its health!

    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Raikou restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Marcoasd: che dilusione
    bellezzo: avevi preso max dmg prima
    Marcoasd: ah

    Start of turn 40
    The foe's Exeggutor used Giga Drain!
    Raikou lost 33 HP! (8% of its health)
    Raikou had its energy drained!
    Raikou fainted!
    bellezzo sent out Zapdos!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 41
    Marcoasd called Exeggutor back!
    Marcoasd sent out Forretress!

    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Forretress lost 60% of its health!

    The foe's Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    bellezzo: omg

    Start of turn 42
    Zapdos used Thunder!
    The foe's Forretress lost 40% of its health!
    The foe's Forretress fainted!
    bellezzo: kkk
    bellezzo: phew
    Marcoasd sent out Exeggutor!
    The foe's Exeggutor restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 43
    Zapdos used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's Exeggutor lost 38% of its health!
    The foe's Exeggutor fainted!
    bellezzo won the battle!
    Marcoasd: www.pokemonperfect.com/forums/showt...Y-OU-Season-6&p
    bellezzo: queste skill
    Marcoasd: rip
    Marcoasd: g
    Marcoasd: g
    bellezzo: da rbyer
    bellezzo: sono pericolose
    bellezzo: gg



    Ed infineeee....primo posto per un team meraviglioso (soprannomi appena fatti): Suffering creates virtue. Questo team PAZZESCO deriva da un mio vecchio team INFIMO salvato come "toxicspikesroar", che praticamente era terribile e faceva schifo. C'erano le spikes, un sacco di roarer, e Alakazam encore che doveva encorare gli Heal BEll (funzionerà sicuramente, vero???). Bene. Ho modificato LEGGERMENTE il team ed è venuto un qualcosa che pensavo "sì vabbè proviamolo ma non sarà granché". Invece vince, vince e stravince. È basato su gente che approfitta dal caos causato da spikes e toxic.

    Virtue is Suffering (Snorlax) (M) @ Leftovers
    - Curse
    - Double-Edge
    - Flamethrower
    - Rest

    Ok. Questo set di Snorlax è buono perché può vincere le battle a lungo andare contro i team difensivi. Perché con il set con EQ Skarmory non viene battuto mai, mentre battere i counter di quello con Flame è più facile, specie se Tyranitar/Rhydon si beccano una toxic in giro, o se ci sono le spikes. Inoltre approfitta del luring del prossimo pokèmon.

    Wisdom not Intellect (Alakazam) (M) @ Leftovers
    - Dynamic Punch
    - Encore
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    In pratica Dynamicpunch lura/lo protegge da Tyranitar, se tutto va bene. Ma non solo: sparato in giro, in mezzo alle spikes e alle toxic, fa malissimo. Difatti di solito lui non fa il lurer a vantaggio di Snorlax, ma lo sweeper finale nel lategame, quando il team avversario è tutto avvenelato, spikato, indebolito. Encore è una mossa fenomenale (un po' meno di recente, quando hanno modificato PO in modo che non funzioni su Sleep Talk, come pare sia sulla cartuccia) che blocca gli Snorlax mentre fanno Curse, per poi devastare tutto quanto, dato che molti team hanno pochissimi switch su di lui. Fenomenale. È anche il counter principale dei last pokèmon, quindi va trattato con i guanti. Questo team è difensivo, ma riesce a brutalizzare i team offensivi in poco tempo.

    Firm Virtue (Forretress) (M) @ Leftovers
    - Explosion
    - Hidden Power [Bug] / Giga Drain
    - Rapid Spin
    - Spikes

    Ok. Questo è il punto forte e il punto debole del team. In pratica volevo uno spiker POTENTE, non uno che si fa spinnare in due secondi. Sebbene apparentemente Cloyster con Toxic sarebbe stata una scelta più ovvia, volevo 1)Fare danni grossi a Starmie 2)Avere Explosion, perché può servire contro Drumlax ma soprattutto contro Heracross e contro dei last poke. Ovviamente il problema è che Forretress non è un grande spinner. Giga Drain è meglio contro Cloyster, Hp Bug contro Starmie. Cloy è molto più usato, ma Hp Bug per lo meno è DECENTE contro entrambi mentre Giga fa schifo contro Starmie.

    Law & Order (Skarmory) (M) @ Leftovers
    - Drill Peck
    - Rest
    - Toxic
    - Whirlwind

    Obv stuff

    King Midas (Suicune) @ Leftovers
    - Rest
    - Roar
    - Surf
    - Toxic

    Superpotentissimo Suicune con Toxic. Main toxic spammer, insieme a Blissey. Immortale ecc ecc

    Benevolent plague (Blissey) (F) @ Leftovers
    - Ice Beam
    - Heal Bell
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Toxic

    MAMMA MIA. Blisset che sparge toxic su Snorlax/TTar, softboila i Double-Edge, facendolo crepare di Recoil ecc ecc SBAV

    %­Vittorie: 86%

    Tornei: 4 W (Lutra, the_joker, mibuchina, AAmen)

    Debolezze: Le spikes, in parte. Heracross con Seismic Toss, e i pursuiter+vapo/curselax, in parte. Gengar Perish songer con Thunder (paralizza Alakazam). Dovrei dire Curselax con Fire Blast, ma sembra che l'abbondanza di Toxic e cose varie non mi abbia mai fatto avere problemi con lui.


    Replay (strambo): http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-226521890

    Bonus:

    1)Team spettacolare nel metagame in cui mean look è bannato (pokemonperfect). Usato solo 4 volte, solo nei tornei, tutte vinte di cui 3 con Conflict e una con Moonlight:
    Exeggutor (M) @ Leftovers
    - Explosion
    - Giga Drain
    - Psychic
    - Sleep Powder

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunder

    Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
    - Explosion
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Spikes
    - Toxic

    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    - Dynamic Punch
    - Explosion
    - Ice Punch
    - Thunderbolt

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    - Acid Armor
    - Growth
    - Rest
    - Surf

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Self-Destruct


    2)Il mio team GSC più rippato in assoluto, anche all'estero: https://netbattle.forumfree.it/?t=70589509

    Edited by Il Bekko - 20/1/2017, 12:58
     
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    Gotta Knock A Little Harder

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    CITAZIONE (Il Bekko @ 5/7/2015, 20:22) 
    Non ci sono Exeggutor o Vaporeon in questa classifica: dei pokèmon molto fumo e poco arrosto.

    poi appena ti bannano mean look ci ricaschi e li metti tutti e due (levando lo shuffler e diventando debole a joltwak/joltlax)
     
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    true story


    no dai, basta esplodere
     
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    l'86% dell'ultimo team è addirittura meglio di un team che ne vince 4/4 (83%).

    con tutte queste blissey sembra di essere tornati al 2004. :P
     
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    questi team mi fanno schifo
    ma basta che ci vinci tu XD
     
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    DI TROIE CE NE SON TANTE, MA COME LE DONNE...

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    applausi per uno che bazzica sui forum di Pokémon competitivo dal 2003 ( almeno mi ricordo essere questa la data dei post su quel forum vecchissimo che nemmeno ricordo), quando gli SS puppavano ancora il latte dalla poppa materna ( scherzo, si facevano ghostare pure in quello)

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    Il Cavaliere Osculapio

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    Moon lo so che sembrano schifosi, ma:

    Il quinto è semplice ma efficace (non dovrebbe sembrare schifoso)
    Il quarto lo conosci
    Il terzo sembra fare schifo ma funziona
    Il secondo si dovrebbe capire che è cool
    Il primo sembra non valere granché ma è FORTERRIMO

    Però tu non sei uno stall player, quindi probabilmente non ne trarresti granché

    PS: Ho aggiunto i log, tranne che per il quinto
     
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    bekins dici che io li dovrei usare?
     
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    Il quinto me lo ricordo: povero Vapo :( e direi che Belly Drum a Lax ci possa stare tranquillamente.
    Il quarto è stato il primo team che ti ho rippato xD BellyLax secondo me è intoccabile perché forza giocate e ci vuole in un team così difensivo. Ciò che mi turba è che questo team l'ho trovato particolarmente debole a un altro team "perfetto" usatissimo su smogon, quello con Raikou/Miltank/Skarmory/Starmie/Snorlax/Marowak (con Rest), per intenderci quello usato da Vil e Cased contro Moon.
    Il terzo non mi piace per niente e ci speravo tanto perché c'è Zapdos3 :(
    Il secondo sembra bellissimo e te lo rubo :P
    Il primo anche purtroppo lo ricordo bene xD
     
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    tu è già da un po' che fai finta di esserti ritirato (@Gf)


    Joker: come dicevo quel quarto team è debole a electric+ground. Ed è il motivo per cui è da parecchio che non lo uso più. Quel team con Marowak è invece debole a Machamp+Cloyster
     
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    Che cosa è il luring?
    "buildare i team costruendoli in base agli switchback da fare" _> Vuol dire: se ho zapdos l'avversario metterà una special sponge o un ground allora io scelgo il secondo elemento in modo tale che batta i due entranti e così via, dici?
    Questo lo facevo all'inizio (in rse) e tu dicevi che i miei team avevano delle falle enormi i treath list :(
     
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    CITAZIONE (Teole Leggend @ 5/7/2015, 22:33) 
    Che cosa è il luring?

    portare nel ko range di uno sweeper i pokemon nemici tramite baitkilling/spikes/passive dmg
     
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    Solitamente il concetto di luring è fortemente associato ad Explosion. Se ho Vaporeon, metto Exeggutor che esplode sugli elettrici, ad esempio.

    Quanto agli switchback, attenzione: io sto parlando di GSC, mica di RSE (sarebbe comodo anche in RSE, ma è già troppo difficile buildare RSE...figuriamoci se ci aggiungiamo queste cose). E ovviamente devi anche e soprattutto considerare le debolezze...non devi farli SOLO in base agli switchback. Esempio: voglio fare un team su Machamp.

    Machamp; chi fa entrare? Zapdos, Skarmory, Suicune, Starmie -> Metto Raikou.
    Raikou; chi fa entrare? Snorlax, ground -> metto Marowak
    Marowak; chi fa entrare? I water, Skarmory -> abbiamo già Raikou cool.

    Ora magari possiamo inserire uno che attiri della gente in modo da far entrare Machamp. Machamp entra in switchback su snorlax, ttar e miltank per esempio. Si può inserire un curselax con mossa fire, per attirare questi ultimi due e switchbackare a Machamp.

    Machamp
    Raikou
    Marowak
    Snorlax (Curse - * - Fire Blast - *)

    ora, in un team con machamp e marowak ci sta benissimo cloyster, perché LURA (=baitkilla) Starmie, che countera TROPPO BENE Machamp e dà fastidio anche a Marowak. Come dicevo, non è che il luring va evitato...solo non deve essere troppo centralizzante.

    Machamp
    Raikou
    Marowak
    Snorlax (Curse - * - Fire Blast - *)
    Cloyster (Spikes, Explosion, *, *)

    e poi si inserisce il sesto ed eventualmente si rifixa qualcosa. Non ho voglia di farlo.

    Edited by Il Bekko - 5/7/2015, 22:44
     
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    CITAZIONE (Teole Leggend @ 5/7/2015, 22:33) 
    Che cosa è il luring?

    luring = baiting

    CITAZIONE (Teole Leggend @ 5/7/2015, 22:33) 
    "buildare i team costruendoli in base agli switchback da fare" _> Vuol dire: se ho zapdos l'avversario metterà una special sponge o un ground allora io scelgo il secondo elemento in modo tale che batta i due entranti e così via, dici?
    Questo lo facevo all'inizio (in rse) e tu dicevi che i miei team avevano delle falle enormi i treath list :(

    non so cosa intenda lui esattamente, penso che intenda considerare sempre di avere modo di far entrare in switchback un hard hitter su uno switch al counter chiamato; tipo in rse il team mio e di seymour con sceptile/forre/ddtar/dactyl/swampert/zapdos ha sceptile, forre e zapdos che possono entrare in campo chiamando celebi in countering, ma anziché attaccare o toxicare si fa direttamente lo switchback ad aerodactyl o forretress. parte dell'idea dietro quel team è stata di inserire queste possibilità di entrata in campo per dactyl in fase di building. un'altra cosa (sempre in rse) è mettere skarmory + dugtrio. anziché spikeare switchbacki e vedi se ti entra magneton. rischiosetto ma può pagare bene.

    in gsc può essere chessò, metti espeon e fai switchback/bpass a machamp/marowak sul ttar che entra.
     
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    Dico che mi fanno schifo nel senso che mi sembrano noiosi da giocare, a parte il secondo, e il primo a metà, che è stalloso ma ha un bel concept
     
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