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    Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    Happiness: 0
    EVs: 188 HP / 240 SpA / 80 Spe
    Naughty Nature
    - Pursuit
    - Flamethrower
    - Crunch
    - Rock Slide

    Salamence @ Choice Band
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Brick Break

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe
    Calm Nature
    IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA
    - Leech Seed
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Light Screen
    - Recover

    Heracross @ Choice Band
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Focus Punch
    - Megahorn
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake

    Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe
    Impish Nature
    - Drill Peck
    - Spikes
    - Roar
    - Taunt

    Flygon @ Choice Band
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Body Slam
    - Rock Slide
    - Hidden Power [Bug]

    Ciao a tutti.

    Ho buildato questa cosa dopo aver battlato per circa un paio di mesi su Pokémon Showdown.
    Devo dire che, malgrado ci siano varie cose a cui devo stare -molto- attento, funziona molto bene per il mio (nuovo?) stile di gioco e per il tipo di mg che ho trovato al mio ritorno.

    In breve: 3 CBer veloci che entrino più spesso possibile, tirino una gran legnata allo switch in (possibilmente bulky water), e poi tornino nella pokeball con meno danni subiti possibile.

    Con le spikes e la sandstorm mi avvicino al 2HKO range su molte cose, e in realtà con un po' di predict, praticamente non esistono switch in "sicuri". Anche Suicune si prende delle gran botte, e alla lunga non può fare granché.

    Il fattore discriminante, che poi è ciò che mi diverte di questo team, è che mettendo sotto pressione l'avversario, costantemente, a partire dal turno 1... Si possono chiudere le partite in un battibaleno.

    Il problema che riscontro più spesso, sono i revengekillers veloci tipo aerodactyl (magari supportato da un magneton usato bene) contro il quale sono costretto al pillaring, o Starmie 3 attacchi che quando entra è altamente rischiosa, motivo per cui ho messo Light Screen a Celebi. Prima c'era Heal Bell.
    Anche CMKou con Substitute mi ha creato qualche problema serio.

    Cose che ho testato/sto testando:
    - DDMence, DDDos e CBDos su CBMence (Gyarados non mi piaceva in nessuna versione, DDMence l'ho trovato distante dalla strategia complessiva)
    - STalkCross e Mach Punch Breloom su CBCross (StalkCross non è male, ma l'ho tolto perché mi è mancato il focus punch su skarmory, Breloom lo sto ancora testando: spore, fpunch, mach punch, sdance)
    - Aerodactyl su Flygon (tolto per troppa poca staying power e perché mi è mancata l'immunità ad electric)
    - Marowak sempre su Heracross. Bello e utile soprattutto contro raikou, ma lentissimo.

    E niente, in molti mi hanno criticato questo team, ma non ho mai vinto così spesso come ora. :)

    Battle appena fatta, con Breloom su Heracross
    SPOILER (clicca per visualizzare)
    ☆pasy_g joined.
    ☆Abbiamounproblema joined.
    Format:
    [Gen 3] OU
    Rated battle
    Sleep Clause Mod: Limit one foe put to sleep
    Switch Priority Clause Mod: Faster Pokémon switch first
    Species Clause: Limit one of each Pokémon
    OHKO Clause: OHKO moves are banned
    Moody Clause: Moody is banned
    Evasion Moves Clause: Evasion moves are banned
    Endless Battle Clause: Forcing endless battles is banned
    HP Percentage Mod: HP is shown in percentages

    Battle started between pasy_g and Abbiamounproblema!

    pasy_g sent out Milotic!

    Go! Tyranitar!
    [Tyranitar's Sand Stream]
    A sandstorm kicked up!

    Turn 1

    Tyranitar, come back!
    Go! Celebi!

    The opposing Milotic used Surf!
    It's not very effective...
    (Celebi lost 10.4% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 2
    Battle timer is ON: inactive players will automatically lose when time's up. (requested by pasy_g)

    Celebi used Light Screen!
    Light Screen made your team stronger against special moves!

    The opposing Milotic used Toxic!
    Celebi avoided the attack!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 3

    Celebi used Leech Seed!
    The opposing Milotic was seeded!

    The opposing Milotic used Toxic!
    Celebi was badly poisoned!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
    Celebi was hurt by poison!

    Turn 4

    pasy_g withdrew Milotic!
    pasy_g sent out Forretress!

    Celebi used Leech Seed!
    The opposing Forretress was seeded!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Forretress's health is sapped by Leech Seed!
    Celebi was hurt by poison!

    Turn 5

    (Celebi is cured by its Natural Cure!)
    Celebi, come back!
    Go! Salamence!
    [Salamence's Intimidate]
    The opposing Forretress's Attack fell!

    The opposing Forretress used Light Screen!
    Light Screen made the opposing team stronger against special moves!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Forretress's health is sapped by Leech Seed!

    Turn 6

    pasy_g withdrew Forretress!
    pasy_g sent out Milotic!

    Salamence used Hidden Power!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 45% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Your team's Light Screen wore off!

    Turn 7

    pasy_g withdrew Milotic!
    pasy_g sent out Metagross!

    Salamence used Hidden Power!
    It's not very effective...
    A critical hit!
    (The opposing Metagross lost 46% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 8

    Salamence, come back!
    Go! Skarmory!

    The opposing Metagross used Meteor Mash!
    It's not very effective...
    (Skarmory lost 18.9% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 9

    pasy_g withdrew Metagross!
    pasy_g sent out Forretress!

    Skarmory used Roar!

    Metagross was dragged out!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing team's Light Screen wore off!

    Turn 10

    pasy_g withdrew Metagross!
    pasy_g sent out Forretress!

    Skarmory used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered on the ground all around the opposing team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 11

    The opposing Forretress used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered on the ground all around your team!

    Skarmory used Roar!

    Claydol was dragged out!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 12

    pasy_g withdrew Claydol!
    pasy_g sent out Forretress!
    The opposing Forretress is hurt by the spikes!

    Skarmory, come back!
    Go! Celebi!
    Celebi is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 13

    Celebi, come back!
    Go! Salamence!
    [Salamence's Intimidate]
    The opposing Forretress's Attack fell!

    The opposing Forretress used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered on the ground all around your team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 14

    Salamence used Hidden Power!
    (The opposing Forretress lost 41% of its health!)

    The opposing Forretress used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered on the ground all around your team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 15

    Salamence, come back!
    Go! Skarmory!

    pasy_g withdrew Forretress!
    pasy_g sent out Metagross!
    The opposing Metagross is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 16

    The opposing Metagross used Meteor Mash!
    It's not very effective...
    A critical hit!
    (Skarmory lost 32.9% of its health!)
    The opposing Metagross's Attack rose!

    Skarmory used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered on the ground all around the opposing team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 17

    The opposing Metagross used Meteor Mash!
    It's not very effective...
    (Skarmory lost 24.6% of its health!)
    The opposing Metagross's Attack rose!

    Skarmory used Roar!

    Charizard was dragged out!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Charizard is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Charizard restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 18
    JohnRedi joined.

    Skarmory, come back!
    Go! Tyranitar!
    Tyranitar is hurt by the spikes!

    The opposing Charizard used Substitute!
    The opposing Charizard put in a substitute!
    (The opposing Charizard lost 24% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Charizard is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Charizard restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 19

    Tyranitar, come back!
    Go! Salamence!
    (In Gen 3, Intimidate does not activate if every target has a Substitute.)

    The opposing Charizard used Hidden Power!
    It's not very effective...
    (Salamence lost 6.1% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Charizard is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Charizard restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 20

    The opposing Charizard used Flamethrower!
    It's not very effective...
    (Salamence lost 27.3% of its health!)

    Salamence used Hidden Power!
    The opposing Charizard's substitute faded!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Charizard is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Charizard restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 21

    Salamence used Hidden Power!
    (The opposing Charizard lost 76% of its health!)

    The opposing Charizard fainted!

    pasy_g sent out Claydol!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!

    Turn 22

    Salamence, come back!
    Go! Celebi!
    Celebi is hurt by the spikes!

    The opposing Claydol used Shadow Ball!
    It's super effective!
    (Celebi lost 31.2% of its health!)
    Celebi's Special Defense fell!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 23

    The opposing Claydol used Shadow Ball!
    It's super effective!
    (Celebi lost 19.1% of its health!)

    Celebi fainted!
    ☆Abbiamounproblema: wow that's fast
    ☆pasy_g: yep

    Go! Flygon!

    The sandstorm is raging.

    Turn 24
    Abbiamounproblema has 120 seconds left.

    Flygon used Hidden Power!
    It's super effective!
    (The opposing Claydol lost 82% of its health!)

    The opposing Claydol used Rapid Spin!
    (Flygon lost 7.6% of its health!)
    The spikes disappeared from the ground around the opposing team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Claydol restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 25
    Abbiamounproblema has 120 seconds left.

    Flygon, come back!
    Go! Salamence!
    [Salamence's Intimidate]
    The opposing Claydol's Attack fell!

    pasy_g withdrew Claydol!
    pasy_g sent out Metagross!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 26
    Abbiamounproblema has 120 seconds left.

    The opposing Metagross used Protect!
    The opposing Metagross protected itself!

    Salamence used Earthquake!
    The opposing Metagross protected itself!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 27
    Abbiamounproblema has 120 seconds left.

    Salamence, come back!
    Go! Skarmory!

    pasy_g withdrew Metagross!
    pasy_g sent out Celebi!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 28

    Skarmory, come back!
    Go! Flygon!

    The opposing Celebi used Leech Seed!
    Flygon was seeded!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Flygon's health is sapped by Leech Seed!

    Turn 29

    pasy_g withdrew Celebi!
    pasy_g sent out Forretress!

    Flygon used Body Slam!
    It's not very effective...
    (The opposing Forretress lost 13% of its health!)
    The opposing Forretress is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Flygon's health is sapped by Leech Seed!

    Turn 30

    Flygon, come back!
    Go! Skarmory!

    The opposing Forretress used Zap Cannon!
    Skarmory avoided the attack!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 31

    Skarmory used Drill Peck!
    (The opposing Forretress lost 16% of its health!)

    The opposing Forretress is paralyzed! It can't move!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 32

    Skarmory used Drill Peck!
    (The opposing Forretress lost 17% of its health!)

    The opposing Forretress used Zap Cannon!
    Skarmory avoided the attack!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 33
    Abbiamounproblema has 120 seconds left.

    Skarmory, come back!
    Go! Flygon!

    The opposing Forretress used Zap Cannon!
    It doesn't affect Flygon...

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 34
    Abbiamounproblema has 120 seconds left.

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    A critical hit!
    (The opposing Forretress lost 48% of its health!)

    The opposing Forretress fainted!

    pasy_g sent out Celebi!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 35

    Flygon, come back!
    Go! Skarmory!

    The opposing Celebi used Leech Seed!
    Skarmory was seeded!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory's health is sapped by Leech Seed!

    Turn 36

    The opposing Celebi used Psychic!
    It's not very effective...
    (Skarmory lost 21.6% of its health!)

    Skarmory used Roar!

    Milotic was dragged out!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory's health is sapped by Leech Seed!

    Turn 37

    Skarmory, come back!
    Go! Breloom!
    Breloom is hurt by the spikes!

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 38

    pasy_g withdrew Milotic!
    pasy_g sent out Celebi!

    Breloom used Spore!
    The opposing Celebi fell asleep!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 39

    Breloom is tightening its focus!

    (The opposing Celebi is cured by its Natural Cure!)
    pasy_g withdrew Celebi!
    pasy_g sent out Metagross!

    Breloom used Focus Punch!
    (The opposing Metagross lost 67% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 40

    Breloom, come back!
    Go! Skarmory!

    The opposing Metagross used Protect!
    But it failed!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 41

    The opposing Metagross used Meteor Mash!
    It's not very effective...
    (Skarmory lost 18.9% of its health!)

    Skarmory used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered on the ground all around the opposing team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 42

    The opposing Metagross used Meteor Mash!
    It's not very effective...
    (Skarmory lost 18.0% of its health!)

    Skarmory used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered on the ground all around the opposing team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 43

    The opposing Metagross used Meteor Mash!
    It's not very effective...
    (Skarmory lost 15.9% of its health!)

    Skarmory used Roar!

    Milotic was dragged out!
    The opposing Milotic is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 44

    pasy_g withdrew Milotic!
    pasy_g sent out Claydol!

    Skarmory used Drill Peck!
    (The opposing Claydol lost 24% of its health!)

    The opposing Claydol fainted!

    pasy_g sent out Milotic!
    The opposing Milotic is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 45

    The opposing Milotic used Surf!
    (Skarmory lost 21.6% of its health!)

    Skarmory fainted!

    Go! Breloom!
    Breloom is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 46

    Breloom used Spore!
    The opposing Milotic fell asleep!

    The opposing Milotic is fast asleep.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 47

    Breloom, come back!
    Go! Flygon!

    The opposing Milotic is fast asleep.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 48

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 35% of its health!)
    The opposing Milotic woke up!

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 49

    Flygon, come back!
    Go! Tyranitar!
    Tyranitar is hurt by the spikes!

    The opposing Milotic used Toxic!
    Tyranitar was badly poisoned!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Tyranitar was hurt by poison!

    Turn 50

    The opposing Milotic used Surf!
    It's super effective!
    (Tyranitar lost 56.2% of its health!)

    Tyranitar fainted!

    Go! Breloom!
    Breloom is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 51

    Breloom used Spore!
    The opposing Milotic fell asleep!

    The opposing Milotic is fast asleep.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 52

    Breloom used Swords Dance!
    Breloom's Attack rose sharply!
    The opposing Milotic woke up!

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 53

    pasy_g withdrew Milotic!
    pasy_g sent out Metagross!
    The opposing Metagross is hurt by the spikes!

    Breloom used Spore!
    The opposing Metagross fell asleep!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 54

    Breloom is tightening its focus!

    pasy_g withdrew Metagross!
    pasy_g sent out Celebi!
    The opposing Celebi is hurt by the spikes!

    Breloom used Focus Punch!
    It's not very effective...
    (The opposing Celebi lost 66% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 55

    Breloom used Mach Punch!
    It's not very effective...
    A critical hit!
    (The opposing Celebi lost 18% of its health!)

    The opposing Celebi fainted!

    pasy_g sent out Milotic!
    The opposing Milotic is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Breloom restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 56

    Breloom used Mach Punch!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 37% of its health!)

    The opposing Milotic used Surf!
    It's not very effective...
    (Breloom lost 25.5% of its health!)

    Breloom fainted!

    Go! Salamence!
    [Salamence's Intimidate]
    The opposing Milotic's Attack fell!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 57

    Salamence used Hidden Power!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 42% of its health!)

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!

    Salamence fainted!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Go! Flygon!

    Turn 58

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 47% of its health!)

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 59

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 53% of its health!)

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 60

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 53% of its health!)

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 61

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 51% of its health!)

    The opposing Milotic used Recover!
    The opposing Milotic restored its HP.

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Milotic is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    The opposing Milotic restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 62

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    (The opposing Milotic lost 51% of its health!)

    The opposing Milotic fainted!

    pasy_g sent out Metagross!
    The opposing Metagross is hurt by the spikes!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 63
    ☆Abbiamounproblema: gg

    The opposing Metagross is fast asleep.

    Flygon used Earthquake!
    It's super effective!
    A critical hit!
    (The opposing Metagross lost 20% of its health!)

    The opposing Metagross fainted!

    Abbiamounproblema won the battle!
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    28/05/2019: le ho appena prese da starmie QUATTRO ATTACCHI (!) in 12 turni.
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    La debolezza più marcata sono gli Eletric muminiti di HP Ice e Substitute, Celebi può Stallare Jolteon e Zapdos ma non Raikou.
    Starmie 3 potresti gestirla con Tyranitar (a cui personalmente non trovo utile Rock Slide) dandogli una spread bulky in SDef.
    Altre debolezze molto più fini, e credo siano poco gestibili con un team non difensivo/stall, sono:
    Magneton + CB Metagross, che una volta tolto Skarmory poi hitta pesantemente ogni tuo Pokèmon;
    Dugtrio + Gengar, se Dugtrio elimina Tyranitar prima di eliminare Gengar con Ice Punch e Fire Punch/Thunderbolt dall'alto della sua Speed revenge killa tutti. Se Gengar ha Hypnosis supporta il Dugtrio stesso.

    Mi piacciono molto i team con 2 o più CBander, ma ho sempre faticato a buildarli.
     
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    Riguardo a raikou hai perfettamente ragione, la reale fortuna è che non ne ho trovati moltissimi con quel set.
    Una possibile soluzione l'ho incontrata con light screen + Heracross (soluzione che in realtà mi ha salvato da molti sweeper speciali)
    Avevo provato Marowak con bonemerang su Heracross, per rompere il Substitute e killare cmkou. Per il resto lo trovavo lento da morire e non utile contro i bulky water.

    Gli altri threat che hai menzionato... Sono verosimili ma revengekillo cbgross con ognuno dei miei CBers. Mence e flygon sono Jolly anche per revengekillare gente tipo alcuni gengar e altri mence/flygon.

    Hai ben ragione cmq a dire che una volta eliminato skarmory, il team è a rischio attacchi fisici.

    Cosa metteresti a Ttar sulla slide? Ice beam?

    Edit: ho capito perché abbia tenuto la slide: la uso spesso come bluff all'inizio del match, per portare a segno gli altri attacchi speciali.

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    ma è tristissimo quel tyranitar :(
     
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    Non hai entrate su Aerodactyl a meno di indovinare sempre l'attacco che fa e mandare il poke giusto, ma anche cosí prendi un sacco di danni. Slide su tar +atk permette di ohkoarlo, quindi secondo me è obbligatorio tenerla, almeno non sei completamente impotente. Anche per zapdos con rest (magari restalk) può servire slide di tar.
    Sempre per aerodactyl e in generale per revengekillers suggerisco toxic>drill peck a skarmory, magari anche protect>taunt per scoutare la mossa dei cbander e fare più danni con toxic

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    Con Pursuitar mi rifiuto di considerare il team debole ad Aerodactyl, su due mosse su quattro può entrare a fargli 50% se si ritira.
    Cmq per me l'unico difetto è Dugtrio se inserito in un team intelligente dove appunto eliminando Tyranitar, Celebi ed Heracross trae vantaggio offensivamente.
    Infatti Starmie, Raikou, Gengar, Jolteon etc... finiscono per farti danni enormi.
    Anni fa si consigliava di mettere una specila sponge. Il tuo Celebi con Ligth Screen li tiene ma OHKO da Dugtrio appunto.
    Non credo che sia una debolezza risolvibile se non cambiando team.
    Inoltre sono abbastanza confidente nel fatto che se togli Drill Peck a Skarmory poi diventi debole a Forretress
     
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    In effetti non ho mai pensato al grosso danno di pursuit su aerodactyl. Di solito lo colpivo sullo switch in con celebi o skarmory (! 😂)

    Quel celebi, con full hp, resiste sempre alla hp bug di dugtrio. O almeno, vi ha sempre resistito. E lo ohkoa con hp grass.

    Celebi, al contempo, ho notato essere forse TROPPO importante per il funzionamento del team. Deve spesso continuare ad entrare sugli ice beam e, nel caso di ch o freeze, mi si scopre l'intero team da una serie di threat importanti.

    Forse, come dici tu, non è il caso di modificare altro, ma di fare tesoro di questa esperienza e ripartire da un team nuovo.

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    se riesci a mantenerlo full hp e dugtrio non è adamant resiste, il problema è che basta un 20% dmg e anche il jolly uccide con un hp bug e poi sei alla mercé di ogni special threat del meta

    secondo me il team è troppo lento, poi in generale mixmence fa 6-0 (purtroppo celebi non può fare molto, quasi sicuramente si ritrova a dover entrare su dragon claw che fa 23-27 e poi si prende 46-54 da fire blast -tutto questo sotto sand e la possibile presenza di spikes-)

    probabilmente 3 choice bander son troppi e mi trovo d'accordo con teo, bisognerebbe rifare il team. prova ad usare 2 cb di cui almeno uno che superi 350 speed e cerca di mettere dei pivot con tante resistenze/immunità per poter switchare in caso si perda momentum

    solitamente a me piace aerodactyl+dugtrio+spikes in modo da pressurare i bulky water e gli steel il più possibile
     
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    jirachi firepunch/toxic/wish/protect max hp max def al posto di ttar

    hp ghost o brick break >> eq su heracross

    cb snorlax max atk max spdef > celebi
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    CITAZIONE (g_f @ 3/6/2019, 20:49) 
    jirachi firepunch/toxic/wish/protect max hp max def al posto di ttar

    hp ghost o brick break >> eq su heracross

    cb snorlax max atk max spdef > celebi

    domani lo provo, seems legit > : ) grazie

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    Così ci sono 2 Pokemon che si prendono Wisp da Gengar, Jirachi e Heracross. Però WishRachi e CB Snorlax ti tolgono tutte le altre debolezze alle treath speciali.
     
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    Sto testando ed effettivamente è molto più stabile. Aumenta molto la staying power di Heracross che ho quindi messo come lead (ispirandomi un po' al Machamp di uno degli ultimi di sharingan)

    Ora, con 4 CBers, mi chiedo se valga la pena provare aerodactyl su salamence. Magari con il set substitute che mi ha colpito (nel senso di annientato) abbastanza spesso. Da usare nel lategame e come revengekill dei tizi veloci.

    PS. Snorlax va centellinato perché senza di esso bastarmie attacchi rimane un cancro.

    PPS. Aerodactyl su salamence mi toglierebbe l'unico vero fighting resistor, quindi maybe not. Forse su flygon? Mmmm
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    aerodactyl in questo team può rimpiazzare solo skarmory, ma se lo fai devi per forza sostituire gengar a salamence e dare a jirachi un set tanky calm minder. oppure inserire gengar e levare jirachi per cb metagross (o rhydon)
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    Guarda, io difficilmente metto Skarmory senza Gengar, perchè se becchi Forretress le punte non ti restano, e giochi 5 vs 6, con tre layer sotto il culo. Ha Drill Peck e Taunt per sopperire la mancanza di una strategia anti-spinning, però, sinceramente, non capisco come possa aiutare il team, se non sfruttando una debolezza alle Spikes nei team avversari.
    Trovo le Spikes poco strategiche.
    Nel senso se avesse CBTar che spamma Rock Slide, le Spikes aiutano a lurare Swampert come se Rock Slide fosse neutro.
    Invece il CB Eq di Flygon baita i volanti che sono immuni alle Spikes.
    C'è poca roba che entra sugli Stab CBandati e subisce i danni sulle punte.
    Skarmory eventualmente difende da CurseLax (last pokè e non), e per questo motivo suggerisci pokemon come Rhydon (e gli altri fix) come alternative, però non è tanto questione di cosa mettere al posto di Skarmory ma di capire come sfruttare le punte con gli Stab Cbanded.
    Se non ricordo male, Smilzo alla smogon cup ha giocato un team simile al DDance Spam con Skarmory al posto di Gyarados, come volante che incassa i MM di Metagross, però le sue punte non aiutavano Salamence, e nonostante aiutassero in parte DDTar, Metagross e Snorlax, ho avuto l'impressione che un pokemon che facesse danni in modo attivo potesse aiutare meglio tutti pokemon della squadra più del 12,5% a switch su Bulky Water, Tyranitar e Metagross avversari (Gengar entrava cmq in campo a Wispare sia su Skarmory che su Snorlax, che è generalmente la debolezza più marcata di questo genere di team da quando Sleep Talk è stato nerfato).
     
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    in effetti può swappare gengar x mence anche senza levare skarm (e senza fare altri cambiamenti). il mio commento era più che altro perché chiedeva come mettere aerodactyl nel team
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